Friday, November 17, 2006

Jim and Della Story...

Today one my close friends named Jim came to my home in the morning after a long break! He has been one of my best buddies since college days! We were in the same group (group one) in Notre Dame College and we used to sit together, eat together, play together and even walk around together. We were so close that most of our NDC buddies used to call us Jim and Della…lolz… After college, I got myself admitted in BUET and he in IUT. Since IUT campus is in Gazipur, he used to stay in the student hostel most of the times. So, we used to have lesser contact and as a result our closeness has been reduced a bit (out of sight, out of mind, you know) these days…it’s sad but it’s true.

Recently, he has completed his B.Sc. in Computer Science from IUT and joined in Stamford University Bangladesh as an Assistant Teacher. Though I am still a B.Sc. student… lolz… you might already know why… the so called session jam in BUET… :((

But recently me and Jim are becoming closer again as we were in those sweet college days… Jim,
after completing his BSc, started staying at home in Jigatola (not in Gazipur IUT Hostel :D) very near to my home… and the university campus (Stamford University, Dhanmondi Campus), where he teaches nowadays, is even closer to our home… So nowadays, we meet each other more frequently and in this process, we are becoming closer (inSight, in mind…lolz)!

Today morning, when he came to our home, we had a long chat for more than four hours… We mainly discussed about the ongoing political problem in Bangladesh… We argued whether M. A. Aziz, the current C.E.C. of Bangladesh, would resign himself soon or not… and on some more political issues… It’s a natural thing nowadays you know… wherever you would go, you would surely find some people discussing these political things… whatever, I think I should skip writing those political issues…

We also discussed about his recent teaching experiences… and he shared some of his funny ones with me! While talking about Stamford University, he also shared an interesting dress rule for the students of that university I never knew… I think I should end this Jim and Della story by sharing that rule with you…

Wearing sleeveless dress not allowed in Stamford University, Bangladesh. This is what I got over their Dress code for the students

Well… actually it doesn’t say “not allowed to” … rather it is saying “advised not to”. If private universities like NSU, IUB and others also start such rules… I guess they gonna lose ummm… 50%-75% of their students… lolz. What you people think ??

50 comments:

Lubie said...

Hahaha first of all congratulation on the Jim and Della back together story ;)

Secondly the rules that u mentioned here sounds sooooo GAY!!!
Let me tell the problems with each rules if u don't mind (or u might skip them if u hate criticism :P)

RULE 1: The students r in Uni for God's Sake, why do u need to pin the IDCard in ur shirt ... it should have been something like u have to carry it all the time or something rather ... GAY!!! don't u think

RULE 2: This is a bit hard to say considerring it is a BD uni ... but still doesn't this mean that guys r also not advised to wear sleeveless shirts even though it is like BOILING weather in BD but yeah I agree to the chemise part that's for the LADIES ... but then again I don't wanna be sexist ...

RULE 3 & RULE 4: Totally agree with thrm ... people wearing those should be kicked out of the class >_<

RULE 5: I am not even sure why is that not allowed or I must say "NOT ADVISED" ... bd is a summer country so guys should be allowed to wear half-pants ... man even in 10 degree weather here(AUS) guys likes to wear shorts and in 38 for BD I am guessing how annoying it is to wear full-pants if u don't want to in summer ... and what's with the scarf BD is still a muslim country right (if I am not mistaken) so yeah scarf should be allowed but yeah I agree that wearing borka in the class is a bit too WEIRD!!!

RULE 6: Thongs GOD ... why is it always a big issue ... but funny thing is notice the part "Ordinary type" ... so no THONGS but slippers ... lolz funny cos those same students after passing there college or uni with the "NO THONGS" rule comes overseas and then wears them here cos everybody here in summer wears THONGS like 90% people ...

RULE 7: Yes I agree to this 1 fully ...

Yeah that is my criticism alright!!! but if u skipped that part then u saved urself a heck of a time I say :P

Adios

Rabab said...

This is totally insane. No university in the world (at least the most recognized/ prestigious ones we know) has this kinda lame rule. I mean what the hell, who are you to decide what I am going to wear? What's wrong if I wear 'chappals'? What if the student is comfortable in wearing chappal? And what if the student doesn't have the ability to buy fancy shoes? Not that every student in a private university is rich?

And what's wrong with wearing shorts/ scarfs? Buch of lunatics I see!

And what on earth is called 'provocative/ seductive' dress? How do they define those words provocative/ seductive? I mean some girl who wears a jeans and shirt/tshirt, could that be possibly considered as a provocative/ seductive dress? If so, then it's the problem with that administration's eye sight; not the girls/ guys.

Last of all, it was really awkard of you to comment on something like- " If private universities like NSU, IUB and others also start such rules… I guess they gonna lose ummm… 50%-75% of their students."

I was shocked to see, someone who's getting an Engineering degree from such a reputated univeristy of Bangladesh is having this generalized comment! So with that comment do you mean to say just becos it's allowed to wear any costumes in NSU/ IUB, people admit themselves in these university to play a role in so-called vulgarity? They have nothing to offer apart from that?

Clarify yourself please.:) And correct me if I am wrong. Sorry for I couldn't hold myself from replying to your post.

Interesting info. btw.

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Shaon said...

Dear Rabab...

Stamford Uni er Dress codes amar kachhe funny legechhe bolei, ta ami ekhane share korechhi... coz i also think uni level jor kore kono specific dress poranor kono kichhu nai... and ami ete used to o noi.... amader uni te erokom kono dress code nei...and I am happy with it...

r most importantly: kheyal korle dekhte pabe this dress code rule is not only for female but also for male it's a generalized rule as i think... Stamford uni oder students er jonno ei rule keno korechhe ta ami jani na...but its damn funny... and I am not sure adou ei dress rule mana hoi kina! :S

r only sleeveless dress er kotha bolechhi ami... again its both for male and female ones! but sleeveless dress er majhe vulgarity er ki achhe... i am not sure... eta stamford uni er authority i better bolte parbe.... you better ask them.!:S

Rabab said...

Actually it's pretty much understandable that my first questions were raised to that Stampford authority, not to you.

However my last question was to you. Although you chose to avoid it to answer. But thanks again for explaining.

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Shaon said...

Dear Anonymous,

I think I need to explain first why I had to delete your last comment and why I'm going to delete your next one as well as the ones you're going to post in future with these type of language. You see in this virtual world we've really no option of judging people, or ofcourse we do have one, we can judge a people by his/her behaviour or language. The language you've used is alien to me and some of them are really very much objectionable to me. But I know I can't blame you. It's really not your fault that you learnt this from your family. Perhaps your mom would call your dad (I wonder do you have any?) as 'the salutation you used for me' so you may think that this was natural, but it's not natural to a world where I live.

The rules I stated here is not set up or followed by me, it's done by stamford university. And you were guessing that I (as a BUET student) am jealous about the 'healthy' environment of private universities. Unfortunately I wasn't . I can only feel pitty for those who didn't even have a campus for themselves. Just a bunch of buildings and bang you got yourself into a university. In fact my school campus was even bigger than yours. If you have time then try to visit Govt. Laboratory high school or Notredame college. And about BUET? do I need to say a thing?

Rikhi said...

hmm. i can see this post has become quite controversial. well, i personally think an university can actually have a dress code for students. if u dont like it, dont get into that uni. stamford, of course, has not made it mandatory. even if they had, i do not see any problem with that. those who will enter there, will do that knowing what they will have to live with.
in my business school, i had courses with a few teachers who wanted us to dress formally in the class. we were okay with it. it was a part of the lesson. an institute may try to teach you a lot other things other than hardcore course materials. you have the choice to decide, if you want to learn it or not and so you can pick ur university accordingly.

[b]@ Rabab[/b]
I know the questions werent meant to me but i felt like answering a few. about the chappal issue - i dont have any problem with chappals. but dont you think it is an outrageous thought that someone studying at a private university can only afford a chappal - not even a decent sandal which may not cost more than Tk 500?
And i am sure you know how to define "seductive/provocative clothes". definitely that do not include a pair of jeans trousers and casual tee-shirt. i think when that tee-shirt gets body-hugging and shows cleavage - it gets seductive and provocative. a university authority may not like to see the students at such costume for various reasons.
and about Shaon's comment, it is true that there are many students in different private universities, who do not abide by the rules Stamford University stated. i think you have twisted his comments. Read twice and see if Shaon has really wanted to say that those students get in there only to wear what they wear! :)

Rabab said...

@ Rikhi apu

Thanks for your patience for replying to my post. I always believe when people give their opinion somewhere publicly, they should have proper weights to their words. They should know people are reading their blogs/ listening to them not for the sake of it, but also there are some careful readers who want to learn what ideas people hold. Of course my reply was never meant to hurt his feelings but just to say that he should be responsible for whatever he comments on. It's not only meant for him but for me, you and for others also.


Coming back to the point of Stamford university, just becos I don't agree with some policies that the authorities have set up for me doesn't necessarily mean I WON'T GET MYSELF ADMITTED INTO THAT UNI. Sheesh! Universities have a lot more to offer than just dress codes! Just for example, if it was for IBA, what would the students do? They would live by their choice and not get admitted to IBA or just get themselves admitted (since it's the best business school in BD) to the uni and forget about it? Well of course Stamford Uni has not made the rules mandatory (as they say it- students are not ADVISED to) but there should be a protest against why someone can not wear a scarf or simple chappals?

As for chappals, it is my choice what I wear. The example you have given me, some faculties ask their students to present themselves formally in the class- that very same rule NSU also has. Not that every faculty has it, but there are some. Those who don't like to follow that rule they don't bother about taking that particular facultie's course. And of course it's not always about the money. It's whether I want to change myself just becos some people ask me to do so. Just becos someone asks me not to wear chappals doesn't mean I won't?


Actually I really don't know how to define 'seductive/ provocative' dress. As you have stated those dresses which show cleavage or gets body- hugging are called seductive/provocative dress. Well then ask a Maolana what he means by seductive/ provocative dress. I won't be surprized to see if he points out at you and says- the dress you are wearing, they way are you talking is provocative to me!! Point is, Bangladesh being a Muslim country (I am not sure if it's becos of religion or lack of education) has a great variety of minds. They way you and I define seductive/provocative dresses may not match with the way rural people define seductive clothes. Or wait a minute, like so many other things, has Stamford Uni itself created an another taboo in explaining what seductive/ provocative dresses are?


And lastly about Shaon bhai's comment, I really believe if he really meant anything else other than what I have found him mean to say, he surely have clarified himself. I wasn't prepared to listen it from you?:P

Thanks for your reply once again!:-)

Jim said...

After going through this post by Shaon and all the comments, I can not but recall a famous story:

"Ekdin shokal bela Imam Shaheb fazar er namaj porar jonno moshjid e jachchilen... r tokhon ek chor shara raat churi kore bari firchhilo...rastai dui joner dekha holo... Imam Shaheb shei chor ke rastai dekhe vablen, oi chor tao bujhi tar-i moton allah er ibadat er uddeshshe moshjid e jachche....r shei chor ta Imam ke dekhe vablo, oi Imam o bujhi tar moton shara raat churi kore bari firchhe..."

plz do excuse me, if I have made you bored by telling this old story...


Now @ Rabab...

Shaon said at the end of his post, "If private universities like NSU, IUB and others also start such rules… I guess they gonna lose ummm… 50%-75% of their students."

And you said to Shaon, "it was really awkard of you to comment on something like" this!

you also said to him, "I was shocked to see, someone who's getting an Engineering degree from such a reputated univeristy of Bangladesh is having this generalized comment!"

First of all, I wanna ask why it seemed awkward to you ? And second, why are you shocked ?

Shaon just said that there are many students (more than 50%) in different private universities, who do not abide by the dress codes of Stamford University stated. Rikhi also said the same thing in her comment! It's a very simple thing... But I don't know why you are making it so complex using these silly wordz: "So with that comment do you mean to say just becos it's allowed to wear any costumes in NSU/ IUB, people admit themselves in these university to play a role in so-called vulgarity? They have nothing to offer apart from that?" It's damn silly I should say! :S

And if anyone doesn't like the dress code of Stamford University, then well... the authority suggest him/her not to admit himself/herself to this uni... Stamford university just wants a formal like look for all of its students and teachers... there is nothing wrong with it, as I think as an assistant teacher of this university...

Rabab said...

@ Jim

Whatever your intention was made by telling the story, I am least bothered about it. I really don't know if you have anything more to say other than rephrasing Rikhi apu's words! Lol.

Shaon said...

Dear Rabab,

I think you have already got the reply and clarification you were looking for from both Rikhi and Jim... Yap,it's true....you've found lots of similarities between the reaction of Rikhi and Jim. And if you want a reply from me, then mine would also be the same! And the reason is quite simple: in most cases, I think the same way as they think... and that's why, we are so close friendz! :)

Rikhi said...

Dear Rabab!

I have tried to get the meaning of Shaon's comment for a few more times and I am sorry to say I really failed to see anything other than the direct question with a tint of humour. I would request you to please again read the sentence. If shaon's not replying to your question is what bothering you now, how about my saying he could not answer your question wondering how come you have twisted his sentence so much? Seriously, I too was not prepared to see you misunderstand a sentence and still misunderstand it after reading it twice or more.

"just becos I don't agree with some policies that the authorities have set up for me doesn't necessarily mean I WON'T GET MYSELF ADMITTED INTO THAT UNI."
This is exactly my point Rabab. its all your choice. you may not like it but you may decide to live with it. same goes with your chappal. you may hate not to wear chappal but you still may start wearing a decent sandal for a particular course, or you may just skip that course.

after my HSC, i considered two options - IBA and BUET. i went for IBA because honestly speaking i was not interested to spend so many hours on books. so though i aspired to be an engineer for almost a decade, i chose to change my path. if IBA had the rule of wearing Burkah or shorts for all girls, i might not have get myself into IBA also.

As for the "seductive/provocative" dress issue - i really dont understand why your are bringing the rural and the fanatic population out here. every issue has a boundary and here we are talking about university students. dont you think we better analyze from the general perspective of you and me and some other people like us - especially the university authority who are making the rules? i might not even glance twice at someone showing her butt or cleavage but a senior citizen (educated and rational one) might have (most possibly will have) problem with that.

well, i actually had and have only one message for you - you misunderstood what Shaon said. i assume probably because you have already perceived it in a different way, you still cant get it. may be you can seek for someone else's insight - of course other than us.

Take care :)

Samia said...

It's amazing how a person can twist one little phrase and create such controversy...

Just because there has been so much discussion going on here, I cannot help but share my two cents too... When it comes to private universities, I believe it is understood that they can have any policy as they like, and the students getting themselves admitted have their own freedom of choice as well.

It is true people don't go to universitites based on how much skin they can expose, but I think students would certainly think twice if there are mandatory policies in a university that would make them bend their regular habits...

By the way, funny story Mr. Jim (I think I heard that earlier too, but makes me laugh everytime...lol)

Bhutum Pechaa said...

““Wearing sleeveless dress not allowed in Stamford University, Bangladesh. This is what I got over their “Dress code for the students”… Well… actually it doesn’t say “not allowed to” … rather it is saying “advised not to”. If private universities like NSU, IUB and others also start such rules… I guess they gonna lose ummm… 50%-75% of their students… lolz.”

Being frightened that rikhi apu may also blame me that I’m trying to twist shaon bhai’s comment. I tried not to go through these lines for once, but for several times! I tried to get the actual meaning what shaon bhai has stated. Unfortunately I didn’t find rikhi apu’s allegation to rabab of twisting the meaning of the comment reasonable. Well let me draw some points from his comment to clarify what he wanted to mean!

1. Wearing sleeveless dress is not include in the dress code of Stamford University, but this dress code is not strictly applied among the student by the authority, rather it is advised, encouraged.
2. Now, if this same rule would have been applied to the private university like NSU, IUB then atleast 50% or atmost 75% of the students would not take addmission or may left these universities, therefore in case of NSU it would have been around 3000 to 4500 students !
3. So if the above 2 points are true then it means:

a) More than 75% students prefer wearing sleeveless chemise, ragged jeans or seductive clothing type things,(it’s clear that Shaon bhai didn’t comment considering “wearing scarf” thing with his tint of humor!)!
b) Among these, around 50-75% students are so much concern about such fashion that for this they would compromise with the University Standards, Quality Education, Library and Lab facilities, Quality faculties and other Uni facilities!
c) In short Education is a little concern to these students comparing to fashion or dress code!

These are the clear and exact points I have found after analyzing shaon bhai’s comment!

Now rikhi apu I don’t know where you found such ‘tint of humor’ in Shaon bhai’s comment I don’t know, but I have found this statement very ridiculous and shallow! may be being a very close, bosom friend of shaon bhai u were not prepared to find the fault from his comment. It is some time hard to find fault of someone you care! humor is one thing, and stating something ridiculous is something else. I think you know the difference! Ppl do have many stereo typical ideas about the private universities. In many cases its true I know. But you shouldn’t put them all in the same category. Before stating something like that try to know more specifically and be sure what you are saying. There are students in NSU I know who definitely took admission just considering its glamour. But how many student are there who would left if such dress code is applied? I think hardly 2% student would do that I’m afraid, not 75%, 50% not even 20%. ‘tint of humor’ should have some limit I guess!!

Rikhi says:
“If shaon's not replying to your question is what bothering you now, how about my saying he could not answer your question wondering how come you have twisted his sentence so much? Seriously, I too was not prepared to see you misunderstand a sentence and still misunderstand it after reading it twice or more.”

Rikhi apu I think you didn’t get the point. It is not misunderstanding. Sometime making fun out of something may be insulting for the related people. It is actually that rabab couldn’t take his comment lightly. You know I don’t blame rabab for asking the explanation from Shaon bhai as his statement is really aggravating. I am not agreeing with everything rabab has said in her comment, but I don’t think she twisted shaon bhai’s statement saying:

“So with that comment do you mean to say just becos it's allowed to wear any costumes in NSU/ IUB, people admit themselves in these university to play a role in so-called vulgarity? They have nothing to offer apart from that?”

Jim bro and rikhi apu, don’t you think that the point I have extracted from shaon bhai’s comment is very similar to what rabab has said?

Now if it is twisting for rabab then no problem to say that you and jim bro also have twisted rabab’s statement.

One more thing as you are pointing out that rabab did a mistake by bringing the extreme examples of rural or fanatic people , In same way you did a mistake bringing example of Burkha or Shorts for girls!! From the context of this discussion it is easily understandable that no one is talking about “Burkha” oR “Shorts” dress code here!

Rabab should not bring the rural people or maulana, but rikhi apu there are many religious and conservative minded ppl out there who are studying at NSU or Buet! To whom wearing jeans and short kamiz or sleeve less dresses could be unacceptable for certain extent, and there are lots of english medium students who doesn’t even bother to wear a cleavage showing t-shirt and doesn’t think it as offensive. We should count them and consider them when we are discussing about our universities. So obviously defining dress-code is relative to perspective of individuals, and there are people with totally opposite perception co-exist within the boundary of our discussion! Though there is definitely something called absolute vulgarity and decency irrespective of what one’s perception is!

Jim said...

Oh noooo...... I am afraid of Bhutum Pechaas and I don't like them at all! But I couldn't understand why this Bhutum Pechaa is bothering so much about human dress codes! :S

bhutum pechaa said...

"shaat khondo ramayon pore koy shitaa kar baap?" -jim bro, do i really sound like bothered so much with the dress code thing ? :) i think you just posted your comment just for the sake of posting comments, or may be you have failed to understand what i have stated clearly! :p

Jim said...

I was just shocked how a person can consider himself/herself a bhutum pechaa or choose a nick like that in stead of his/her name! And my last comment was all about that shock! But I know everybody has got the right to do so... So, just be happy being a bhutum pechaa!

For your kind information, I don't have any interest on what a bhutum pechaa tells or thinks! And it's natural for a human being not to understand the language of a bhutum pechaa! lolz... :D

Rajputro said...

Umm I think it started with a joke ('cause I know shaon personally from like 10 years or more), and later ummm... ummm....... lets say not a joke.

NSU buddies felt humiliated, they should be. But if someone said such thing about BUET I think I wouldnt even protested about it. Because making such remark would make the person a laughing stock. But if I start arguing, then there might be a glimpse of truth hidden beneath it.
You may say, I should have the right to protest. I know. Everyone has. But if someone tells me now that what CEC Aziz is doing good for bangladesh, I won't say a thing, I will just have a little smirk on my face (Shalar bangali shob khanei politics!)

And about Bhutum pecha, Nice NICK (Y).

Rikhi said...

Bhutum Pechaa :)

let me make one thing clear to you first. I am close with both Shaon and Rabab. I adore Rabab a lot and I believe Rabab is quite aware of that. So dont think I am being biased to a friend. I am not defending anything or anybody here. I was only trying to give my opinion and because i thought Rabab misinterpreted i just wanted her to consider it again. And because I am close with Rabab i chose to poke my nose here.

"If private universities like NSU, IUB and others also start such rules… I guess they gonna lose ummm… 50%-75% of their students… lolz."
"So with that comment do you mean to say just becos it's allowed to wear any costumes in NSU/ IUB, people admit themselves in these university to play a role in so-called vulgarity? They have nothing to offer apart from that?
I am sorry but i still cannot translate or restructure the first sentence into the second one. I am afraid I may not be good at "reading between the lines" and clinging only on to the surface one.

Please forgive my sense of humor but i really thought and still think he was just trying to cut a harmless joke. i definitely cant be certain about Shaon's motive but from the sentence he wrote it didnt seem to me that he was trying to say what Rabab sensed. perhaps it is just a difference of perception.

when i was reading that sentence i was not concerned about the justification of the percentage he used. i dont expect jokes to be logical - i am afraid you could not take it as a joke. i knew what is the generalized perception about the private universities which is somewhat true and i knew he commented on the basis of that. i guess because Rabab is from a private university she took it personally. I dont know but "Bhutum Pechaa", are you from a private university too? unfortunately, i am a person who takes such stuff lightly - i have been bashed by hundreds of people for being an IBAite from different angles - i have always taken them and their comments lightly. there were truth in them and there were exaggeration but why bother? they tried to pochafy me and i laughed with them. i know its not wise for me to expect the same from you too.

here, i am afraid, i can see an issue of private vs. non-private universities. well, i think i can offer myself from a neutral stand being from an institue which is not private but cannot be mingled with the non-private ones too because of the difference in culture. so i believe i do not have any biased stand here and i would be really grateful if u could please keep me out of this "favoritism" issue.

about the "burkah" issue - i used it as an example of my freedom to make choice, dear - i did not bring it with dress code issue. i could have just used an example of car and rickshaw instead. finding fault is easy, na? ;)

about the conservative minded students - i have already said it over and over that people have choices. they may hate to see other people wearing what they wear but they have chosen to co-exist with that. that was the main thing i tried to say at first. i brought the issue of authority only because they are the ones who will make the rules - not the students. so it is more important to consider their mentality when we are talking about "costume guidelines".

well, i have blabbered enough. it has got really difficult to keep track .. lol. i'll wrap up with a request - please dont get personal over here. if u want to talk, talk on the issue. dont throw stones at each other.

Carez! :)

Shaon said...

Dear Bhutum Pechaa,

In your comment, you've drawn some points from my post and I think you've misinterpreted in some cases:

# "Now, if this same rule would have been applied to the private university like NSU, IUB then atleast 50% or atmost 75% of the students would not take admission or may left these universities, therefore in case of NSU it would have been around 3000 to 4500 students !" >>>>> here you got me completely wrong...I wrote in my post, "If private universities like NSU, IUB and others also start SUCH RULES…". If you check out my post more carefully, you will find that I've mentioned all the dress code rules of stamford uni first before saying it and I was not indicating a single rule, rather all the rules specified by stamford uni!

# "More than 75% students prefer wearing sleeveless chemise, ragged jeans or seductive clothing type things, (it’s clear that Shaon bhai didn’t comment considering “wearing scarf” thing with his tint of humor!)!" >>>>> first, I said 50% to 75% in my post... But I donno why your interest is on the worst case (more than 75%) :S and second, I was talking about all the dress code rules as I've already said! but somehow, here you only mentioned about the worst ones (wearing sleeveless chemise, ragged jeans or seductive clothing type things) and tried to skip others! And the dress codes specified by Stamford also include the “wearing scarf” thing!

And when I said, "If private universities like NSU, IUB and others also start such rules… I guess they gonna lose ummm… 50%-75% of their students…", I just wanted to relate the Stamford Uni dress codes with the dresses, more than 50% students wear in those private universities! Initially, I considered my comment as a joke and later it has become a serious issue here! So here goes my sincere response on this controversial issue:

"It's true that I don't have any stats to say so, But it's also true: this is the IMAGE, those uni students have developed for years! So now, it's the responsibility of those unis and uni students to change this IMAGE not by ARGUEMENTS, but by DEEDS."

Finally, thnx to all for sharing your thoughts about this post! And if this post hurts any of your feelings, then I am sorry! It was really unintentional from me!

Ciao!

Samiha Esha said...

my my my....too many comments about shaon bhaia's post.....well let me tell something very frankly.....but before that i want to answer shaon bhaia's one query ::::

Shaon Said ::

"If private universities like NSU, IUB and others also start such rules… I guess they gonna lose ummm… 50%-75% of their students… lolz. What you people think ?? "


Shaon bhaia NSU, IUB won't ever lose their 50-75% student if they will implement this rule....i think before telling such remark about the students of such reputed university you should do a servey.....without seeing anything in live you can't speak like that......

every year almost 810 students go admit in buet...on the other hand more than 1500 students get admit to these universities.....and most of the students come from a very respected families....you can't humilate them this way.......

another thing is that wearing cloths totally up to the own choice of a human being.....we have no rights to talk about anyone's dress up.....but its totally wrong that 50-75% of students of NSU/IUB wear sleeveless cloths....its really a weired comment.....I hope next time before posting such post in blog you should find out the reality.....

anyways, don't u think you should write about buet students too...cause i think that's more important topic you can write about...at least private university students never fight with police like the Students of buet fights with police in the roads ......better write start writing about own things first...then hit others...:)


best of luck.......bye bye...:)

wishes,

Samiha Esha :)
www.samiha-esha.com

Shaon said...

Esha,

Again, you have proved that you always start talking about any topic before knowing it in detail... I think, Either you didn't read all the comments posted before your comment or you couldn't understand the clarifications what I or Rikhi gave in our respective comments! But you know I am not surprised at all at your such meaningless comment!

In my post, I have never said "50-75% of students of NSU/IUB wear sleeveless cloths....", rather I tried to say, "there are many students in different private universities, who do not abide by the dress code rules(all the rules, not only the sleeveless one) Stamford University stated."

"i think before telling such remark about the students of such reputed university you should do a survey....." >>>>> khekz...in reply, I just can quote what Shafi already said, "our ex-CEC Aziz would never be able to arrange a proper and neutral election!" >> should this statement be justified with servey?? I don't think so...

"and most of the students come from a very respected families...." >>> very funny indeed!! So you mean, if you belong to a so called respected(!!!) family, you can wear anything you wish, off course you can, you have got the right to wear anything or even nothing, you have got the right to show off your bodies! But at the same time some people have also got the right to say against it!

I don't have enough time or patience to give you the same explanation and clarification! So try to read and understand all those comments! And if you still can't understand... then well, it's damn expected!

Finally, may be I am not a GENIUS like you, may be I don't know the real world so well as you know, but I can think a bit! And I am not prepared to take ideas from YOU to decide what to write and what not to write in my weblog! So next time, you better REMEMBER that!

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Hey Esha,

As much as I love you and as much sweet you are, I hate to break this to you, I have to take a stand for Shaon in this case.

You see, Shaon made a very simple post about a rule he found rather strange. Mind you, I never detected any sense of judgement in his post. He was neither being disrespectful nor judgemental about the university or their rules. He wondered what would happen if it were to happen to other unis as well. And I am sure he has seen around how other schools are, in terms of the population that attends and the environment as well...

He wasn't endorsing anything is his post either. So I feel you were being rather rude and commenting without clearly knowing where he stood, and that's certainly not nice...

Anyway, I guess a lot of us tend to project, and that in turn puts us in jeopardy. Because your comment sounded just like that. Shaon said one thing, and you interpreted it as something else based on your personal projection of what Shaon thinks... lol.. Anyhoo, if I make no sense, do ask me in person =)

And Shaon, I see you are getting better and better at starting up very engaging discussions. Good job, and keep it up!! =)

Mehrinz said...

hmm...we live in a crazy world with insanes roaming free and perhaps the sanes treated...
Shaon...the comments you got was more interesting than the post itself...no insult to the writer intended...just speaking my mind...thanks for your comment and cheers mate!

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Haha....what a huge debate!!...I have a nice memory regarding this Jama-Kapor fact..
In the 1st yr at IUT,Gazipur..one of friends was expelled from the class by the Great
HOD(head of the dept)Mottalib sir because he was wearing a 3 quarter during his class.
Seeing this another friend of mine didnt enter into his class that very day..after somedays
my roommate was humiliated by shahadat(hujur-lol)for the same fact and was asked for seeking permission from the provost to get back again.But without these two people there were no prob to wear three quarter or even somethong li'l shorter than that.I can still remember during our physics classes(taken by FAK sir of BUET) those friends were also seen wearing such dress and sir had had a smirk on his face and my friends were blushed in shame..haha

Thats why they decided not to wear such Jama-kapaorz..Baparz na!!!!(Chokkhu-Lojja ase na IUT hole KI hobe LOL)

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